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Season one of Strange New Worlds offered a frustrating ray of hope, but season two is utter garbage. So sad.
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The sad state of entertainment these days is illustrated simply; the 'entertainment' is not entertaining, the analysis/reviews/'comedy at the entertainments expense' is entertaining. Reviews, Parody and satire of the entertainment once upon a time was complimentary… now, the review/parody/comedy is the entertainment.
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Also, it doesn't help that NONE of the supporting cast has any charisma on screen.
To think you have to spell it out in the way they make these characters spell things out… sort of. You do it with more panache.
"Some people enjoy Brave New Worlds".
And some people enjoy drinking their own piss because it's recycling. Kidney failure in the name of virtue. Well… they're basically doing the same thing to Star Trek.
Pretty much right on point.
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I get through it all hoping that this is another alternate timeline.
It isn’t Star Trek.
As has been said several times by others, the big difference between TOS and SNW is the life experience of the writers. TOS writers had been through WW2 (as military or as civilians) meanwhile the toughest thing the SNW writers have been through is being told they couldn’t get the feminist studies class they wanted as college
Everything post-2005 = FakeTrek
Star Trek has finally made the voyage home….looking forward to many more seasons🎉🎉🎉
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any chance you can do a deep dive into the StarLost 70's series
So the writer’s strike has been going on longer than we thought
Chatto, you said these shows lack subtext, but the subbtext is really thr hate on white males and the old fans.
Its quite obvious star trek more accurately nutrek has been co opted by them & their followers
Spock losing Vulcan side = Sheldon from Big Bang Theory gets drunk= cheap laughs and lazy writing
Yeah I stopped watching it too
What a great well made point about "Subtext" playing such a major role in movies….this small (but perfectly formed) reason for todays #flopgate bad movies!
#flopgate2023
#DeconstructiingMovies
They are writing as if everyone is autistic and perhaps the writers themselves are on the spectrum.
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Well they did call it STRANGE. omg, they are doing a Musical episode. Broadway in Space. Im speechless
Also, I just noticed how almost every episode of this season is always focused on the female characters and just how amazing they are.
The grade school level writing is is so boring and non trek I just can’t watch it. “Enterprise” was the last real Star Trek in my opinion.
I do love The Orville, however.
You know that smell, that gasoline smell.
Smells like Victory.
Spock ate Bacon? Had he been transported 1000 years in the past?
I thought it had something to do with age byt my 17 year old autistic son hates noTrek. And I believe that what he told me the other day is actually right, He said "it's made by stupid people for even more stupid people to watch". It seems like every day people are more stupid than the previous one. Western civilization has fallen but it hasn't realized it yet. But the rest of the world has.
So… I don't agree with everything you say. That being said, you made some really good comments on how writing these days is too "on the nose." And the lines from the Godfather 3 and Apocalypse Now was very clever.
I gave Star Trek Discovery a chance. Watched the first season and quit, what was then CBS All Access. I subscribed to Paramount+ to watch Picard season 3. I liked it. I then watched a few episodes of Strange New Worlds and quit the service again. They never learn.
Great suggestion for a critique Ted Lasso on Apple TV.
Schools are failing America. This generation is incredibly uncreative . They can only destroy what other generations created. I stopped watching American shows. I highly recommend Korean shows
The only thing Star Trek now has offer me is the chance to point and laugh.
Appreciate the intelligent critique of SNW. Seems like most of social media is a love-fest for this show, which I find baffling. It's not good! Season one was decent, but season two has been a tough watch, and I too just stopped watching.
I didn't think the quality deserved any more attention, and while most of the problems stem from writing? It seems like all elements have slipped, including budget and basic production. Which brings me back to my original point – why does this show appear to receive so much positive reenforcement?
it's easy to hate on the garbage hollywood has pumped out in the recent years / half decade. Anyone who doesn't see a problem with Hollywood in 2023 simply does not have a proper working brain.
Complete agreement on everything you said. Galaxy Quest was the best Star Trek movie ever made.
Well, Star Trek Lower Decks being vomited into Star Trek Strange New Worlds with episode 7 isn't doing the series any favor either, i had a little bit of hope left that ST: SNW might become more watchable at some point in later episodes, but i'm just done now.
I switched back to an episode of ST: TNG with Q placing the Enterprise into Borg territory as a pallet cleanser, the quality of writing really has gone down the shitter for ST over the years…
I commented earlier that I enjoyed the episode set in Toronto. That would be it. The rest has been cringe. And maybe it's just me but this iteration (and the youngest as well) of Uhuru is a god awful ugly woman.
I like it in terms of the visuals but I am actually going back to the Original series.
Sorry to say I agree, SNW is a big disappointment, really a waste of the potential of episodic story-telling. What made TOS so great was the story always came first, the character development and relationships served the story, in SNW it's vice-versa.
Compare this show’s Spock to the one in JJ Abrams’s movies. This shows a stark difference in how to treat a legacy character appropriately, imo. Sure there was lots wrong with those movies but they at least kept the characters mostly the same, especially Spock’s characterization.
my biggest issue with SNW is that none of these characters feel like they belong into a Trek show. They are so overly emotional and talk like modern day teenagers. Not like highly trained members of Starfleet from the 23th century. It's annoying
Always remember when we're living in a nuclear cave that we permitted our women to VOTE. (Is that you Barbie…etc.
Getting this general vibe from a section of the fanbase:
Discovery (which I'll grant you is not good): "Too dark! No optimism! Not Star Trek!"
Strange New Worlds: "Too silly! Not serious enough! Not Star Trek!"
Kinda doesn't feel like said section will like most (if not all) newer Trek produced. Which is fine. No one is being forced to watch. But it's more fun to complain than ignore I guess.
Boy am i getting tired of all these Star Trek naysayers. Very tiresome because it's not how Star Trek must be.
According to them and all of their very Star Treky notions of how a trueTrek should be. " F off and let the rest of us enjoy it."
It was crap. I agree with you.
Just found out Anson Mount had a baby early into filming season 2 and there were complications. So basically he took a leave of absence and the show had to hastily write around it, which is part of the reason season 2 feels so off. I can't excuse all the writing, but it does explain Pike being relegated to special guest star in his own show. Unfortunate.
Hawai'ian pizza completely rocks. **Pulls out his flintlocks and defends Hawai'ian pizza**. It's one of the greatest Canadian inventions of all time!
Yep, totally agree, they've made star trek into a sitcom, no real militaristic behaviour, cheap and cheesy attempts at humour, too many incompetent white males in supposed positions of authority, that Ortegas character is awful, if any of this crew had been on TOS enterprise they would have been sent straight back to the academy. I can't believe it actually got worse in the second season, almost as if they knew they had to tow the line to rope in the fans in the first season, then abandoned that completely the second time around in favour of doing things their way, which sucks.