You Don’t Understand Vinland Saga.

Im enjoying it so far. Not everything needs to be action packed slash and dash. Younger me would be annoyed but after rewatching berserk and reading the manga in my older years ive learned to appreciate story telling more than action

Love the progression. Love the metaphor of growing crops and how it correlates to growing as a person and a celebration of life instead of death and destruction. Even for those who obsess over the action there is still a fair degree of conflict within the farm and all the stuff regarding Cnut. I feel there's a perfect balance. Gonna go back through all of vinland in the manga after I watch this weekly. Gonna finally sit down and read the whole thing Prologue, Farmland, Baltic Sea, Vinland. I got 12 volumes and im aching to get the 13th. Side Note: its also sick that since I'm British and in final year of high school taking history learning about the Norman conquest and yes….Cnut comes up.

I personally love the thought of treating the first arc as a prologue to the rest of the story, because it often helps people realize that Vinland Saga isn't a story about fighting and revenge, but rather overcoming those conflicts, so really, the Prologue Arc is an outlier from the rest of the story that serves as VS's own sort of Golden Age Arc, giving context to the Thorfinn we see in Farmland and beyond.

i think s4 of AOT or the moment time travel is introduced in the story the story went straight to downhill leading to one of the worst ending in anime
yeah so i actually really enjoyed seasons 1-3 since it combined a great story with great spectacle, season 4 however seems to value epic spectacle while shafting the great writing to the side. it feels like season 4 is focused on “how can we make the most WTF moment?” rather than “how can we continue a compelling a story while incorporating cool moments.

the entire introduction of marley just fell completely flat for me. the reason we sympathized with the eldians in season 1 was because they were on the losing side of a terrible battle, so we rooted for the underdog character to fight and win. but then they introduce marley and show them horrifically killing mass groups of people – this isn’t inherently bad, but i can’t sympathize with a group that is introduced like that.

seasons 1-3 took a medium sized sandbox and filled it to the top, but season 4 after widening the scope of the story now has an overly large sandbox with just a little more sand. having the story stretch so far in so many different directions made a lot of the marley characters feel shallow and two dimensional with a lot of them eventually repeating the same character arc in realizing neither side was right. the marley characters never clicked with me since a lot of them are shallow and those who aren’t just repeat the same arc, there’s no depth or interesting philosophies to explore since it becomes too predictable and stale.

the time skip, in my eyes, was also a massive shot to the foot since it created a massive disconnect between the audience and characters. putting a 4 year time skip this late into the story was not a good idea since it completely ignores the aftermath of the basement reveal. as a result of this, we watch characters we know completely teleport into different mindsets and become different people off screen.

for example, the show asks you to car about the relationship between sasha and niccolo when the entirety of it is shown off screen, we never see it develop or grow and as such we can’t grow invested. we see one or two flashbacks after the fact but that just seems like a lazy response and shallow writing. if he didn’t intend to put emphasis on this plot point then why add it in the first place?

i’ll admit that this next bit is more so my opinion on the type of story being told, but i think making the show take place in a predetermined timeline is incredibly stupid and stops any and all tension dead in its tracks. eren seeing into the future means that the timelines already been decided which means i can’t get invested in any of the characters decisions anymore. i can’t get mad at levi for choosing armin over erwin because that decision was already decided before the fight even began. i can’t say “why don’t they do this or that” because they are strictly bound to doing what the timeline says. again, this is more opinion and preference based but i think predetermined timelines are majorly flawed in stories since i can’t invest myself in anything. everything’s already been decided so the characters actions are nothing but meaningless movements to push a story forward as opposed to the driving force behind altering the narrative in their own individual vision.

the largest offense in my eyes is what the story did to eren. after seeing the memories of the future, eren essentially teleports into a different character. we never see eren develop from a kid into his new form – we see him develop throughout seasons 1-3 and then completely develop offscreen into someone else, but because we don’t see how or why he changed, i can’t sympathize or even care about him anymore since it’s not the same eren. also, being influenced by future memories completely eradicated any personal character motivation. eren has already seen that he fights in marley and starts the rumbling and dies all the way back before season 4 even starts. and because the timeline is predetermined, he knows he can’t change anything he sees. this leads to eren knowing stuff he shouldn’t know simply because the plot literally tells him, not because of his own experience learning and growing, but becuase the script literally tells him what to do. throughout season 4 he’s basically just reading off a script that he’s already read which to me is just completely unappealing since there’s no driving motivation or passion behind him actions, he’s just carrying out what he’s already seen.

for example, eren goes to marley and fights in order to obtain the war hammer titan so that he can be victorious later in shiganshina, but how did he know the war hammer would even be there openly, how did he know he would need extra support in shiganshina, how did he know when to attack? the answer to these is that the plot tells him because he already saw it which is just a stupid idea in my eyes since it eliminates any and all personal motivation and stakes.

i will say that some of these ideas aren’t necessarily bad on paper, but with a story like attack on titan, some of them just don’t fit well in the established narrative, and this leads to the show giving off the impression that it thinks it’s smarter than it actually is which comes across as overly edgy and dark.

these ideas could have potential resolutions and expansions later in the story, but as we see with the ending they just don’t and a lot of the themes and ideas introduced in s4 p1 just fall flat on their face by the end without any real introspection.

obviously this is all my opinion and i’m not just a blind hater of the show. i thoroughly enjoyed seasons 1-3 but it seems that s4 just really dropped the ball narratively speaking in order to make the flashiest and most “WTF!” moments it could think of.

so yeah that was long lol but those are some of my opinions on the show

Hot damn, Farmland saga is so freakin good. Im excited to see Baltic Sea arc some day as well. Vinland is easily in my top 3.

Farmland saga is really painfull for me because the episodes always end on a Cliffhanger and i have to wait 1 week

Wow, I subscribed right after the video ended. 👍

I was one of the more action lover when I watched the first season, I was like "Hey this is cool, I wonder what more this gives" so I started reading the manga after season 1.
I tried it, but it was not to my taste (this was just after season 1, and I could say that this was when I was not critical to stories), so I dropped it, I managed to get to "I have no enemies" and I was like, "good for you" then dropped it.
But now, after 4 years, with a lot of good animes, and bad ones, when 291 animes watched and like 450 series reading on the record, I wished to experience the so-called "peak".

I did not have all of these feelings when I read Vinland Saga, but what I had was just pure admiration and happiness of Thorfinn, that just made me realise, what kind of story it is.
A self reflecting story with a dark and regretful history, this story told me. That a man can still shine so bright after one's dark past, redeem one's wrongdoings through tribulations after tribulations, make mistakes along the way, correct them if it's necessary, for he is simply a man. Nothing more nothing less, for you are just human.

And Thorfinn is one of the best written characters in literature.

watching thorfin"s struggle with his humanity is to me better than the 1st season.

I like how Einar refers to him as a "big baby" or something like that. Thorfinn has never truly lived.

Naruto, thorfinn, and Eren are my top 3 favorite MCs in anime for this reason alone. Naruto, thorfinn, and Eren are similar characters in terms of dealing with cycle of hatred but deal with it in different ways. They start out with simple goals but as they get older and understand more about the cruelty of the world, the other people that will go on to change their personal views, and how gray human nature and life in general really is, they begin to change.

The most recent episode was just a pure work of art

I started listening to a new band the other day, and one of their songs just really resonated with how I feel about how Thorfinn's characters is going. I am loving seeing the change in Thorfinn, showing dealing with things like PTSD and learning to resolve living with yourself and your actions. If you are interested Through Stars by Unleash the Archers feels like Thorfinn's theme song to me right now.

It's interesting watching the community get into this.

Berserk better get a farming arc too like Vinland and vagabond

Peakland Saga 💯💯💯